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. >> understood. do you have reason to believe the older brother, tamerlan, was the leader in this and that dzhokhar may have been the follower? can you hear me, commissioner? we have lost the commissioner temporarily. while we try to re-establish that connection, we're going to continue our conversation, and with so many questions still unanswered, we'll come back to the commissioner when we can. so many questions still unanswered about the terror plot and how to protect our homeland, we've invited two congressional leaders on national security to discuss what happens now. dianne feinstein is chair of the senate intelligence committee, congressman pete king is chair of the house committee on counterterrorism, and he joins us live from new york. i'm sorry. i've got him in my ear. senator, congressman, hold on. we're going to go back to the police commissioner. do you have a sense whether the older brother tamerlan was the leader in this, and dzhokhar somehow followed him into the conspiracy? >> any information along those lines is based upon conjecture at this point in time
last night in the interaction with police, tamerlan tsarnaev who was 26 years old. it all started last night in cambridge. there was a shootout with an officer at m.i.t. on the m.i.t. campus. that officer having been killed last night, found dead in his police cruiser. the suspects then reportedly carjacked an suv, and a chase ensued. at one point they did release the driver unharmed. they went into watertown which is just outside of cambridge, about 10, 15 minutes outside of cambridge and that's where there was a shootout with police. by 1:30 a.m., the first suspect tamerlan tsarnaev was dead and the second suspect was on the loose and being chased. this morning at about 5:00 a.m. police shut down the mbta. they have also now seen the shutdown of amtrak between boston and providence, a major shutdown. ed davis, commissioner of police, says this is a major man hunt. >> overall at this hour we've seen a lot of activity. they have surrounded the home in cambridge of the suspects where both lived. the a.p. reportedly got in touch with their father overseas in russia. their father expressi
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